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It just made sense to move into my grandmother's house.

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She wanted to recreate for our daughter the happy memories she had in this house.

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I was stunned to see Amelia sitting up in bed.

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Who was she talking to?

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I know I heard somebody, but there's nobody there.

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Something was wrong.

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I was just shocked.

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Something was wrong in our house.

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I could feel awful, searing hatred.

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Who's there?

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Something paranormal was in our house.

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But I never would have thought a member of my own family would be trying to harm me.

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Chris, Chris, she's back!

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I'm back!

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I grew up in a small city.

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About 20 minutes east of LA, called Whittier.

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I spent a lot of my time with my grandmother.

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She lived down the street from us.

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Hi, Grandma!

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I'd come in and she'd say,

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How are you, sugar pie?

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What you up to?

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Not much.

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What are we making today?

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Your favorite pie.

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I loved my grandmother dearly.

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She was wonderful to me.

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Very caring and nurturing.

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Very warm and loving and inviting.

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What do you think?

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Sorry, Grandma.

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Gotta go.

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Don't you want some pie?

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I met Chris in July of 2008.

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Chris loved life.

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He had no fear about him and such strong confidence.

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Bye, Grandma!

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The common cliche, it was just love at first sight.

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The minute I laid eyes on her, I knew she was the one.

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Chris and I got very serious very quickly.

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But my happiness was cut short.

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My grandma had a stroke.

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And our family decided that she needed around the clock care

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that we couldn't provide.

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So she had to go to a hospice facility.

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Chris and I spent as much time as we could

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visiting her and trying to keep her spirits up.

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What can I do for you, Grandma?

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There was a day that she was really down and depressed.

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And she asked for her favorite blanket.

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The one Grandpa got me.

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It's on my bed.

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I'll go be it. Will you stay with Grandma?

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Before Chris left, I told him...

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Oh, just go in through the back door. It's always open.

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Chris works security, so he gave me a puzzled look.

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And I said, she comes from the generation where

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you leave your doors and your windows unlocked and open.

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I said, I'll go in through the back door.

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Sure enough, the door was open like they said.

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It was a creepy, dark house.

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There's all kinds of antiques and sort

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that she had collected over the years.

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Damn it.

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All of a sudden, I got this really strange feeling.

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Almost like somebody's following me.

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I don't see anything, so I shrug it off

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and think, oh, it's just my imagination.

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I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to get through this.

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I'm just sitting, so I shrug it off and think, oh, it's just my imagination.

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Snap out of it.

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I go into her bedroom...

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and see her blanket sitting there.

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I still feel this heaviness about me.

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I'm a big guy.

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I've been in the security field for about nine, ten years,

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so there's not too many things that are going to creep me out.

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But this house had me creeped out.

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When I got back to the hospital, I guess obviously

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I looked like something was bothering me.

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What's the matter? What happened?

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Nothing. I don't know. It just seemed like there was somebody in the house.

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But obviously there was nobody there.

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Oh, Mr. Security.

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I thought Chris was just reading too much into it.

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You're my hero.

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My grandmother passed away.

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I was completely devastated.

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This was someone who I had spent so much of my life with,

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someone who raised me and my best friend, and now she's gone.

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Chris and I got married.

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We had a baby girl, and we named her Amelia.

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It just made sense to me.

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I was just a little girl.

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I was a little girl.

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I was a little girl.

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I was a little girl.

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I was a little girl.

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It just made sense for us to move into my grandmother's old house.

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The price was right.

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The house was a perfect size.

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It had a backyard.

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It was everything we were looking for,

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and it added bonus to me to be in the warmth and the comfort of my grandmother's home.

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I knew it would have made my grandma so happy.

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It made me feel closer to my grandmother.

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Almost as if still a part of her was with me.

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There was a lot of unpacking to do,

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getting rid of old stuff that was in the house.

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Oh, wait.

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It's my guardian angel.

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We didn't get to all of it.

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We just kind of took a couple of boxes of paperwork, shoved him in the den closet.

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It's nothing that's that important.

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We hung pictures in our hallway of family members.

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We hung pictures in our hallway of family members.

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His family, my family, past generations.

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Momentos of people that had passed on

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that we can see every time we walk through the hallway.

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It's great.

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See what your man did for you.

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Rocky, I'm afraid this joke may get seeking a whole mess of truth.

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Amelia had her own room.

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Rocky laughed.

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I'll just put this rock on his sheet.

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It was amazing to think that my daughter was the third generation

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of my family to live in this house.

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It gave me such a warm feeling.

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It brought back memories of me when I was a little girl

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with my grandmother in the house.

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A few days later, we had put Amelia to bed.

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I glanced over at the monitor, and I was stunned to see Amelia sitting up in bed.

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I'd waved over to her.

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She was having a conversation with someone.

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Chris, look at this.

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Who was she talking to?

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She was looking in a specific direction

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as if somebody was sitting there next to the bed that she was talking to.

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Here's our child sitting up in bed having a full conversation with nothing.

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And then I hear another voice.

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Almost like a really faint, but you can hear it, woman's voice.

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It's a collared joint handkerchief.

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I'm kind of like weirded out.

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Like, what the hell's going on in here?

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Am I just hearing things?

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Who is that?

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I start to freak out and wonder, who's in a room?

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Did somebody break in?

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I go over and I start checking the windows to make sure that they're locked and make sure nobody's in there.

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Are you talking to, sweetie?

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No.

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Who's your friend?

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She shut down.

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Didn't want to talk about it.

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For her to want to keep a secret was very unusual.

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I didn't know what to think, but I started to watch the monitor like a hawk.

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Come on.

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Good night.

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One night, Chris had gone to work.

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I went to take my contacts out, get ready for bed.

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I heard a very small, very light knock on the bathroom door.

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I thought, meh, I tried to brush it off.

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It sounded like a fist had pounded the door.

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Very forceful bang, very loud.

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I'm home alone with my young child.

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I needed to check on her.

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I reached out, kind of shaking.

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I felt blind.

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Everything was blurry.

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There's no one outside the door.

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My daughter was looking very happy and peaceful in her bed.

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I heard what sounded like footsteps on the roof.

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The thing that really scared me was that somebody could be trying to break into our house.

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That's what I thought.

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What would anybody want with us in our house?

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I called my husband immediately.

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I was talking probably a mile a minute.

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Come home right now.

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Okay, I'll be home as soon as I can. Just sit tight.

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When I get home, I grab my flashlight and it's so heavy I can double it up as a weapon if I need to.

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Stay here. I'm gonna go check outside.

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I walked down the run behind our bedroom and don't see anything.

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It was dead quiet.

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But we're just east of LA, so there's always that possibility that we could have a break in or anything of that nature.

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But there was nothing out there.

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So I kind of just said, you know, hey honey, just reassured her.

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Maybe she's hearing new creaks and cracks of an old house.

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I wasn't sure what it was, but there was something threatening about the house.

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This was not a house.

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It was a house that was a little bit more than a house.

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I wasn't sure what it was, but there was something threatening about the house.

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This was not the safe place that I remembered from my childhood.

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I decided we should maybe do something as a family, so I thought, okay, let's have a barbecue out back.

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It was nice to have family time again.

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Chris is working a lot, and it was wonderful to have him home, and Amelia was having fun playing with her toys.

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It seemed like a perfect evening.

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Holy crap, what was that?

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I saw this figure, like a black shadowy figure, like passed by the kitchen, and then it was gone.

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His face got really serious.

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You guys stay there, I'm just gonna go inside for a second.

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I went into my room and grabbed my gun from the safe. I knew it was fully loaded.

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My heart's racing because, you know, at any given moment I can turn the corner and kind of see somebody.

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Amelia, come here.

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I feel like somebody's on my heels.

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Like a heavy weight on me.

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I heard a creaking noise coming from the kitchen.

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What was that?

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Who's there?

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I saw something, at least the figure of somebody. I couldn't shake the feeling there was somebody there.

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Is everything okay?

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Yeah, it's nothing. I thought I saw something, but it's nothing.

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I wasn't convinced. I know that if he thinks he saw something, and he went,

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to investigate it, there's a reason behind it. He saw something, and he just wasn't telling me.

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Later that evening, Chris had gone to work.

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I was trying to find a way to get to the kitchen,

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to just relax and finish up some housework.

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I hear tapping on the window, as if fingernails were tapping.

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Nothing there. Absolutely nothing.

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I hear this scratching on the outside of the house.

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The hair on my arms stood up.

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It sounded like the living room door slammed shut.

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I stood there, really not wanting to go see what it was.

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Another bang, the kitchen door, the den door, and then another, and another, and then another.

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They didn't actually close, they just made the noise.

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I felt so vulnerable.

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I had a terrible feeling. Somebody was following me.

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I felt something grip my shoulder.

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I felt something grip my shoulder.

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After what I had just experienced,

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I knew something was happening.

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I felt something grip my shoulder.

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I felt something grip my shoulder.

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I felt something grip my shoulder.

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I knew something was happening.

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Something paranormal was in our house.

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There was definitely something or someone connected to this house.

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I was searching for any kind of reason as to what was happening to us.

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I started to think, could it be somehow connected to my grandmother?

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I was searching for any kind of reason as to what was happening to us.

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I started to think, could it be somehow connected to my grandmother?

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Is grandma still here?

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Maybe we had done something to upset her.

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What do you mean here?

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This was her house for so long.

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What the? Stay there.

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Amanda, you have to come see this.

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I couldn't believe what I was looking at.

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This one picture came off the wall and landed in a very unnatural way.

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We were both completely at a loss.

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The nail's still good.

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The picture would have had to have been lifted off to come off the nail.

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I was utterly confused as to what was going on and what was happening.

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I started to wonder, maybe we should have moved somewhere else.

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Maybe we should have moved somewhere to start fresh that neither one of us had any memories from.

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Hey, Chris.

258
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Oh, hey, Kevin.

259
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My boss asked me, hey, you know, what's going on?

260
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I told him, you know, I have some weird things going on in the house.

261
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A lot of things that I can't explain.

262
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Neither of us can.

263
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Like what?

264
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Like fingernail scratching at the window, footsteps down the hall.

265
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,000
And he said, you know, well, maybe I can help you with that.

266
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My wife, Lisa, she's a psychic.

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I was dumbfounded because I didn't really so much as buy into, you know,

268
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psychics and mediums and things of that nature.

269
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Amanda, she's frightened.

270
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We were desperate at this point. We didn't know what else to do.

271
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So we decided, let's give it a shot.

272
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Okay.

273
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I'm a psychic medium.

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I specialize in exorcisms and cleansings.

275
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I've been gifted since about four years of age.

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Hi, Amanda. I'm Lisa.

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I didn't know what a psychic was except for the silly things you see on TV.

278
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And I didn't really know what to think, but I knew we needed something.

279
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They were a very sweet young couple.

280
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I could tell immediately they were very stressed.

281
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They really needed help and I really wanted to help them.

282
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I was very worried.

283
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,000
She moved through the house as if she was taking photographs with her eyes

284
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and just kind of making observations.

285
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,000
As I walked around the home, a pulse in my hand began to start.

286
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,000
It got stronger and stronger and it was leading me around.

287
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I got this very strong sense of history.

288
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Have you been living here long?

289
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,000
No, just a few months.

290
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That's strange. I feel a very strong family connection.

291
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,000
This is my grandmother's house.

292
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It was really odd because we hadn't given her any information.

293
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,000
I was heading towards Amelia's room.

294
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,000
My hand started having a pulse. It's like a Geiger counter.

295
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,000
I was drawn to her little bed.

296
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And I pointed to a spot on the ground.

297
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Did she talk to someone there?

298
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I froze for a second.

299
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,000
Yes.

300
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:12,000
I remembered Amelia sitting up in bed, having a conversation with someone we couldn't see.

301
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,000
All of a sudden I could hear her talking.

302
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,000
I can hear her now.

303
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,000
The presence was in the room with us.

304
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,000
I could hear her talking.

305
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,000
The presence was in the room with us.

306
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,000
She's very kind.

307
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,000
I like her presence.

308
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:12,000
You could feel this good presence and it was a very gentle, very kind, very nurturing voice.

309
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:22,000
And then Lisa said that the spirit in this room was of a positive force.

310
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It was actually protecting my daughter.

311
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When she turned to leave the room, I heard Lisa say something.

312
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000
My heart stopped.

313
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,000
What did you say?

314
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,000
Sugar pie?

315
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,000
It got very emotional.

316
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,000
It's my grandma.

317
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That's what she called me.

318
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:11,000
It was a wonderful feeling inside to think that this woman was now protecting my child.

319
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,000
But it was very confusing.

320
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We had a guardian angel presence.

321
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,000
But on the other hand, these terrible things had happened.

322
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The next room I went to was the den.

323
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You could feel this dark, horrible feeling.

324
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,000
It was overwhelming.

325
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000
I was jolted and pushed back.

326
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,000
I heard this very aggressive voice yelling and screaming.

327
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,000
I could feel that she was trapped.

328
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,000
I could hear it.

329
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,000
Angry, scratching.

330
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,000
I could see her dig her nails in and scratch and claw at the side of a box.

331
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,000
She wanted out so desperately, she was literally in a hell.

332
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,000
Lisa, Lisa!

333
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,000
I looked at my hands and I swear they were bleeding.

334
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,000
Scratching.

335
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,000
She wanted me to feel the pain that she was going through.

336
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,000
What's going on? Lisa!

337
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:36,000
I could feel a presence literally physically there.

338
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:43,000
Lisa turned around and said, you have human remains here.

339
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,000
Right behind my hand on this wall, there's a box of human remains.

340
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,000
Here we go.

341
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,000
My jaw dropped.

342
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,000
I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

343
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,000
I opened up the closet door and we have all sorts of boxes stored in there.

344
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,000
No.

345
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,000
She tells me keep looking, keep going.

346
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,000
No.

347
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,000
That's that one. That one.

348
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,000
It's in there.

349
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,000
Let me see, it's in there.

350
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,000
Oh my God.

351
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,000
As soon as Chris took out the box, I realized what it was.

352
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,000
I was so shocked.

353
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,000
I was so shocked.

354
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,000
I was so shocked.

355
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,000
Great Aunt Elmerie.

356
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000
Elmerie? Who's that?

357
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,000
Inside this box was an urn of ashes.

358
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:05,000
I looked over at my wife and she looked back at me and, you know, she understood.

359
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,000
Like she understood what Lisa was talking about.

360
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:14,000
Not everybody knew that my grandma had a twin sister.

361
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:23,000
She lived out in Las Vegas, so I only saw her maybe once or twice a year.

362
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,000
She had very long fingernails.

363
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:32,000
She was a very stern person, very difficult.

364
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,000
Everything had to be her way or no way.

365
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:49,000
When my uncle passed away, my grandmother had to bring her sister back home to take care of her there.

366
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:58,000
The whole time she was there, she made my grandma miserable and would be very nasty.

367
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,000
I'll make chicken soup.

368
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,000
I don't want it.

369
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,000
I've made something.

370
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,000
I don't want it.

371
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:14,000
It was very upsetting seeing my grandmother being treated in such a mean way.

372
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,000
Get out of here.

373
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,000
A few months after that, my great aunt passed away.

374
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:35,000
I never would have thought in a million years that a member of my own family would be trying to harm me.

375
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:48,000
I tried to explain to them the gravity of the situation.

376
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,000
You need to get rid of these ashes to protect this family.

377
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,000
Her great aunt blamed them for her being in that box.

378
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:02,000
She's just begging to be out and no one's listening, so her only recourse is aggression.

379
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,000
She'd do anything to get out of that box, anything.

380
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:09,640
If you 어�

381
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,000
b

382
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,000
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383
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,100
its

384
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,400
cum

385
00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:34,000
ut

386
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,240
blamed them for her being in that box.

387
00:34:41,240 --> 00:34:43,080
If these remains were not removed,

388
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,280
this family would never survive living there.

389
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,660
Me and Amanda had talked about what to do with the ashes.

390
00:34:57,660 --> 00:35:01,860
I had figured that we'd just leave them in the garage overnight,

391
00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:04,500
and then we would just figure out what to do with them in the morning.

392
00:35:09,340 --> 00:35:11,380
Later that evening, Chris had gone to work,

393
00:35:11,420 --> 00:35:14,420
and I was sitting on our bed watching the little TV.

394
00:35:14,460 --> 00:35:16,420
Bunny, are you ready?

395
00:35:16,460 --> 00:35:17,780
Bunny, are you ready?

396
00:35:17,820 --> 00:35:19,420
Bunny, are you ready?

397
00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:20,860
Bunny, are you ready?

398
00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:22,420
Bunny, are you ready?

399
00:35:22,460 --> 00:35:23,900
Bunny, are you ready?

400
00:35:23,940 --> 00:35:25,420
Bunny, are you ready?

401
00:35:25,460 --> 00:35:27,300
Bunny, are you ready?

402
00:35:27,300 --> 00:35:29,260
Are you ready to meet that new challenger?

403
00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:30,860
Oh, yeah, I'm really happy.

404
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:32,260
Okay, Bunny.

405
00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:37,500
Let's bring in that new mystery challenger.

406
00:35:38,420 --> 00:35:39,540
Well, come on.

407
00:35:40,460 --> 00:35:42,540
And your name is Bunny.

408
00:35:42,580 --> 00:35:43,460
Sable.

409
00:35:43,500 --> 00:35:44,700
Oh, Sable.

410
00:35:44,740 --> 00:35:49,340
I hear fingernails tapping on our window.

411
00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:52,540
They were tap, tap, tap.

412
00:35:52,580 --> 00:35:54,460
Sable's from Harlem.

413
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:56,540
Instagram wonderful.

414
00:35:56,540 --> 00:35:58,100
Oh, I can hear it.

415
00:35:58,140 --> 00:35:59,700
Oh, Sable.

416
00:35:59,740 --> 00:36:01,140
So, get out of here.

417
00:36:01,180 --> 00:36:02,700
Oh, I can hear it.

418
00:36:02,740 --> 00:36:03,700
I can hear it.

419
00:36:03,740 --> 00:36:04,700
I can hear it.

420
00:36:04,740 --> 00:36:05,700
I can hear it.

421
00:36:05,740 --> 00:36:08,940
You can see that she is very serious.

422
00:36:08,980 --> 00:36:11,700
All right, Sable, you know how our game is going.

423
00:36:11,740 --> 00:36:13,700
Yes, I'll watch the video.

424
00:36:13,740 --> 00:36:14,940
I understand.

425
00:36:26,540 --> 00:36:28,540
And it looked out the window.

426
00:36:28,580 --> 00:36:29,980
Absolutely nothing.

427
00:36:37,500 --> 00:36:40,580
I was completely petrified.

428
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:47,900
I knew that my great aunt would be so angry.

429
00:36:47,940 --> 00:36:49,340
I was so angry.

430
00:36:49,380 --> 00:36:50,740
I was so angry.

431
00:36:50,780 --> 00:36:52,100
I was so angry.

432
00:36:52,140 --> 00:36:53,300
I was so angry.

433
00:36:53,340 --> 00:36:54,500
I was so angry.

434
00:36:54,540 --> 00:36:55,740
I was so angry.

435
00:36:55,740 --> 00:36:58,340
My great aunt was back.

436
00:36:58,380 --> 00:36:59,780
Come on, come on.

437
00:36:59,820 --> 00:37:02,100
He's still saying it's not him.

438
00:37:02,140 --> 00:37:03,700
Yeah, I got him back to the car.

439
00:37:03,740 --> 00:37:04,900
Oh, my God.

440
00:37:09,980 --> 00:37:10,780
Hey, babe.

441
00:37:10,820 --> 00:37:13,140
Chris, Chris, she's back!

442
00:37:13,180 --> 00:37:14,540
What?

443
00:37:14,580 --> 00:37:16,540
Chris, come home, please.

444
00:37:16,580 --> 00:37:20,540
Okay, I'll be there as soon as I can.

445
00:37:20,580 --> 00:37:21,900
Amanda.

446
00:37:21,940 --> 00:37:22,940
Amanda.

447
00:37:22,980 --> 00:37:24,380
All of a sudden, the phone drops call.

448
00:37:24,380 --> 00:37:25,380
Chris?

449
00:37:28,220 --> 00:37:29,820
And the phone went dead.

450
00:37:49,060 --> 00:37:51,740
I was terrified.

451
00:37:51,780 --> 00:37:53,540
Completely terrified.

452
00:37:55,380 --> 00:38:00,380
I could feel the most evil, terrible feeling.

453
00:38:05,380 --> 00:38:06,380
I hear this...

454
00:38:09,940 --> 00:38:13,380
The door had shut, almost as if somebody closed it.

455
00:38:24,380 --> 00:38:25,380
No!

456
00:38:30,380 --> 00:38:32,380
Amelia!

457
00:38:32,380 --> 00:38:33,380
No!

458
00:38:35,380 --> 00:38:36,380
The door wouldn't open.

459
00:38:37,740 --> 00:38:40,740
Trying to pull on the door and hit the door and kick the door.

460
00:38:48,380 --> 00:38:53,380
I could hear these heavy, thudding footsteps on the roof

461
00:38:53,380 --> 00:38:57,380
as if the spirit was trying to cave in my roof.

462
00:39:01,380 --> 00:39:02,380
Mommy!

463
00:39:02,380 --> 00:39:03,380
Mommy!

464
00:39:03,380 --> 00:39:04,380
Mommy, I'm here!

465
00:39:04,380 --> 00:39:09,380
My daughter starts to cry, and I can't get out.

466
00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:10,380
I can't get to her.

467
00:39:10,380 --> 00:39:11,380
Mommy!

468
00:39:11,380 --> 00:39:12,380
Mommy!

469
00:39:12,380 --> 00:39:13,380
Look.

470
00:39:24,380 --> 00:39:25,380
Amelia!

471
00:39:26,380 --> 00:39:27,380
Mommy!

472
00:39:29,380 --> 00:39:30,380
Amelia!

473
00:39:33,380 --> 00:39:34,380
Mommy!

474
00:39:35,380 --> 00:39:38,380
I hear what sounds like footsteps.

475
00:39:41,380 --> 00:39:42,380
Mommy!

476
00:39:46,380 --> 00:39:49,380
Something was coming at me.

477
00:39:53,380 --> 00:39:55,380
I hear what sounds like footsteps.

478
00:39:57,380 --> 00:39:59,380
Something was coming at me.

479
00:40:09,380 --> 00:40:11,380
I hear what sounds like footsteps.

480
00:40:12,380 --> 00:40:15,380
Something was coming at me.

481
00:40:24,380 --> 00:40:26,380
I look like Amelia!

482
00:40:29,380 --> 00:40:31,380
I was petrified for Amelia.

483
00:40:36,380 --> 00:40:38,380
Mommy! Mommy!

484
00:40:38,380 --> 00:40:40,380
Leave my daughter alone!

485
00:40:40,380 --> 00:40:42,380
Stop messing with my family!

486
00:40:42,380 --> 00:40:44,380
I'm just yelling at the top of my lungs.

487
00:40:44,380 --> 00:40:46,380
Leave my family alone.

488
00:40:46,380 --> 00:40:48,380
If you want to pick on somebody...

489
00:40:48,380 --> 00:40:49,380
Pick on me!

490
00:40:49,380 --> 00:40:50,380
I'm right here!

491
00:40:50,380 --> 00:40:52,380
We had to do something.

492
00:40:53,380 --> 00:40:55,380
We had to get rid of these ashes.

493
00:40:55,380 --> 00:40:56,380
They had to go.

494
00:40:58,380 --> 00:41:00,380
As far away from our house as possible.

495
00:41:03,380 --> 00:41:06,380
I knew what I wanted to do with my great aunt's ashes.

496
00:41:06,380 --> 00:41:10,380
I had a good idea of where I wanted to scatter her.

497
00:41:15,380 --> 00:41:19,380
She was always very happy, at the casino.

498
00:41:19,380 --> 00:41:22,380
It was definitely a place that she loved to be.

499
00:41:23,380 --> 00:41:25,380
She loved to be.

500
00:41:25,380 --> 00:41:27,380
She loved to be.

501
00:41:27,380 --> 00:41:29,380
We just wanted this thing out of our house

502
00:41:29,380 --> 00:41:31,380
and wanted to move on with our lives.

503
00:41:48,380 --> 00:41:52,380
As her ashes were flying in the wind,

504
00:41:52,380 --> 00:41:55,380
you could feel the sense of relief.

505
00:41:55,380 --> 00:41:57,380
You could feel this...

506
00:41:58,380 --> 00:41:59,380
sort of...

507
00:42:05,380 --> 00:42:07,380
Did you hear that?

508
00:42:07,380 --> 00:42:08,380
Yeah.

509
00:42:08,380 --> 00:42:09,380
I did.

510
00:42:15,380 --> 00:42:19,380
I knew that now she would be at peace and be happy.

511
00:42:22,380 --> 00:42:24,380
I knew that.

512
00:42:28,380 --> 00:42:30,380
When we arrived back home,

513
00:42:30,380 --> 00:42:34,380
there was such a sense of peace and calm in our house.

514
00:42:34,380 --> 00:42:38,380
Our house was no longer tormented by this negativity.

515
00:42:41,380 --> 00:42:45,380
My grandma had always looked out for me when I was little.

516
00:42:45,380 --> 00:42:48,380
And now it's a great feeling

517
00:42:48,380 --> 00:42:52,380
knowing that my grandmother is also taking care of my daughter.

518
00:42:52,380 --> 00:42:55,380
And my great aunt was now at peace.